Packet Pushers – Show 13 – Turning To The Dark Side

Josh O’Brien, who consults in the world of Data Center 3.0 and blogs at, joins the Prime Pushers for the podcast.  In this show, we go off on the week’s more interesting news, and discover a bit of technology that Greg actually likes! (He went on so long, we blushed and had to look away.)

  • The rumors are flying that Brocade is up for sale.  We theorize about who might want to buy them and why, clearly demonstrating why we’re network engineers and not stock analysts.
  • Cisco has attached its name to the Linksys brand, so what does that mean for Cisco’s image when Linksys routers are hackable?  We have a fascinating deep dive on this topic, until Greg’s head explodes with boredom and he rips the mic from our hands.
  • Check Point Heavy Industries has announced astonishing sales and profits for Q2 2010.  We scratch our heads as to why.  Are there any engineers out there still showing Check Point the love?  The Pushers sure aren’t…
  • In round #2 of our musings on career development, we talk about whether you really need to turn to the dark side to keep going onward and upward.  Are managers people too?  We think it’s possible, but we’re not convinced.
  • When designing data center redundancy, how does an architect draw the line between appropriate and overkill?  Is dual-everything just lining your vendor’s pockets?  Can the complexity of a high availability configuration actually introduce MORE risk to your data center, rather than less?  We have a lively discussion and try to define “money well spent”.

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  • #21217

    I’m not seeing a link for MP3 download (and there wasn’t one for the last episode either). Have tried in 3 different browsers. I can use the podcast but I prefer the MP3 download :)

    • Greg Ferro

      You can download the file directly from the Packet Pushers website at

      The software at Packet Pushers takes care of it automagically and I won’t be posting the link on EtherealMind until I can find a way to automatically cross post on both sites (unlikely from what I’ve seen).


      • #21217

        Got it. Thx!

  • tgronke

    I’m part of the minority extensively using Checkpoint. I’m part of a large company providing managed web hosting. The historical reasons described in the podcast (‘We’ve been using it since the dawn of time) apply in our case, where Checkpoint usage started more than 10 years ago. There are a few features that were historically unique to Checkpoint, though you can find comparable features in current releases of Juniper/Netscreen and Cisco:
    –Multiple firewalls manageable from single management server. That’s been a feature for a long time. If you use the Provider-1 multi-level management server, a single management server appears to be multiple management servers, which can each be dedicated to a customer. Provider-1 allows access to be split among administrators.
    –Ruleset readable by a non-techie. A single rule can appear with any mix of source IPs, destination IPs, and TCP, UDP, and ICMP ports. Technically, this can result in a god-awful mess, but it closely reflects what the non-techies request, so you have a easy correlation between rules requested and rules implemented. That comes in handy for audit requests.
    –One management server for firewall functions. The common functions we support on a firewall are all managed at the same console — firewall, site-to-site VPN, and user remote-access VPN.