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		<title>By: Greg Ferro</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/secure-computing-sold-to-mcafee/#comment-565</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Ferro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 09:29:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And McAfee wonders why we laugh at them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And McAfee wonders why we laugh at them.</p>
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		<title>By: Mocky</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/secure-computing-sold-to-mcafee/#comment-564</link>
		<dc:creator>Mocky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 12 Mar 2010 04:09:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know what ? McAfee has decided to kill SnapGear series. Check out my.securecomputing.com . Ever since they messed up my anti virus subscription licenses, I swear that I won&#039;t go back to them anymore but sadly the very thing that I installed for my company network turned out acquired by them, and now killing it. I guess from now on &quot;no more US made&quot; crap but Chinese/Indian/Taiwanese made hardware. Risky ? Well I just have take the chances.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know what ? McAfee has decided to kill SnapGear series. Check out my.securecomputing.com . Ever since they messed up my anti virus subscription licenses, I swear that I won&#8217;t go back to them anymore but sadly the very thing that I installed for my company network turned out acquired by them, and now killing it. I guess from now on &#8220;no more US made&#8221; crap but Chinese/Indian/Taiwanese made hardware. Risky ? Well I just have take the chances.</p>
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		<title>By: Scott Allen</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/secure-computing-sold-to-mcafee/#comment-563</link>
		<dc:creator>Scott Allen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Oct 2009 15:01:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Snapgear became our router of choice a few years back, rock solid routers at a good price. The real question is, where do we go from here? What are the most worthy alternatives?

We evaluated Fortinet routers before finding the Snapgear line, but how else has the SMB router/firewall landscape changed in the last few years that would affect which product lines we should be looking at?

Any suggestions would be appreciated.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Snapgear became our router of choice a few years back, rock solid routers at a good price. The real question is, where do we go from here? What are the most worthy alternatives?</p>
<p>We evaluated Fortinet routers before finding the Snapgear line, but how else has the SMB router/firewall landscape changed in the last few years that would affect which product lines we should be looking at?</p>
<p>Any suggestions would be appreciated.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Ferro</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/secure-computing-sold-to-mcafee/#comment-562</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Ferro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2009 12:48:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you. The Snapgear was a great product and is sadly missed. The company that made it is still in business, developing other products so maybe they will do another one in the future. Here&#039;s hoping.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you. The Snapgear was a great product and is sadly missed. The company that made it is still in business, developing other products so maybe they will do another one in the future. Here&#8217;s hoping.</p>
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		<title>By: Fernando Cassia</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/secure-computing-sold-to-mcafee/#comment-561</link>
		<dc:creator>Fernando Cassia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 06:27:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree that seeing small firms disappear and engulfed by large corporations (the bigger the firm, the more clueless the execs get in their ivory towers).

Yet, Snapgear went from being an innovative firm to virtually STALLING after the cyberguard acquisition.

I don&#039;t know many of the kit you mention, I just own a Snapgear Lite2+, and what I know is that firmware updates had stopped around mid 2005 at version 1.8something.

And only NOW I found at the McAfee page a download link for a 1.8.12 firmware dated 2009. That would be the first firmware update in four years.

I know, it&#039;s kinda amazing that a four-years old product is still not only useful and still relevant but also supported.

I don&#039;t know what Cyberguard did, but it certainly felt that it concentrated on newer more expensive models while leaving Lite/Lite2+ customers on their own.

What certainly I cannot understand is why there&#039;s no community around these devices. I expected to find forums, tweaks, third party software, even unofficial firmware with additional features. But I found nothing.

FC
PS: Someone tell McAfee that since there&#039;s linux inside, that they should publish the GPL source code of the firmware, now that the snapgear site is gone.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that seeing small firms disappear and engulfed by large corporations (the bigger the firm, the more clueless the execs get in their ivory towers).</p>
<p>Yet, Snapgear went from being an innovative firm to virtually STALLING after the cyberguard acquisition.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know many of the kit you mention, I just own a Snapgear Lite2+, and what I know is that firmware updates had stopped around mid 2005 at version 1.8something.</p>
<p>And only NOW I found at the McAfee page a download link for a 1.8.12 firmware dated 2009. That would be the first firmware update in four years.</p>
<p>I know, it&#8217;s kinda amazing that a four-years old product is still not only useful and still relevant but also supported.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know what Cyberguard did, but it certainly felt that it concentrated on newer more expensive models while leaving Lite/Lite2+ customers on their own.</p>
<p>What certainly I cannot understand is why there&#8217;s no community around these devices. I expected to find forums, tweaks, third party software, even unofficial firmware with additional features. But I found nothing.</p>
<p>FC<br />
PS: Someone tell McAfee that since there&#8217;s linux inside, that they should publish the GPL source code of the firmware, now that the snapgear site is gone.</p>
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		<title>By: Justa Guy</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/secure-computing-sold-to-mcafee/#comment-560</link>
		<dc:creator>Justa Guy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 16:23:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Simple competition by purchase.  Buy it, destroy it, leave customers with no alternative.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simple competition by purchase.  Buy it, destroy it, leave customers with no alternative.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Ferro</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/secure-computing-sold-to-mcafee/#comment-559</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Ferro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 07:25:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The NAI firewalls were really Enterprise products, and McAfee tried but failed to enter the space. The only thing that stuck was the Virus stuff. 

My guess is that they want the SnapGear for SOHO, the rest is just baggage. SnapGear has already got content filtering proxy, mail gateway and access-lists already. They can add the virus and content scanning then sell it as a home firewall. The SnapGear uses the Motorola Coldfire processor, so it can be manufactured cheap.

Maybe they want another shot at the Enterprise market, hard to believe because not too many people take them seriously.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The NAI firewalls were really Enterprise products, and McAfee tried but failed to enter the space. The only thing that stuck was the Virus stuff. </p>
<p>My guess is that they want the SnapGear for SOHO, the rest is just baggage. SnapGear has already got content filtering proxy, mail gateway and access-lists already. They can add the virus and content scanning then sell it as a home firewall. The SnapGear uses the Motorola Coldfire processor, so it can be manufactured cheap.</p>
<p>Maybe they want another shot at the Enterprise market, hard to believe because not too many people take them seriously.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Sep 2008 03:30:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmmm, seems like McAfee sold these guys off the firewall products just a few years ago. Anyone remember how much?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/02/14/nai_sells_firewall_business/

I wonder why SC sold and why McAfee bought? There must be more to this one than simple economics?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmmm, seems like McAfee sold these guys off the firewall products just a few years ago. Anyone remember how much?</p>
<p><a href="http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/02/14/nai_sells_firewall_business/" rel="nofollow">http://www.theregister.co.uk/2002/02/14/nai_sells_firewall_business/</a></p>
<p>I wonder why SC sold and why McAfee bought? There must be more to this one than simple economics?</p>
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