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	<description>Network design, architecture, thinking, working. Tech.</description>
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		<title>By: Bookmarks for novembre 21st through novembre 27th &#124; Crisis</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/on-the-art-network-diagrams-presentation/#comment-872</link>
		<dc:creator>Bookmarks for novembre 21st through novembre 27th &#124; Crisis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Nov 2009 23:01:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] On the Art of Network Diagrams and Presentation &#124; My Etherealmind &#8211; [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] On the Art of Network Diagrams and Presentation | My Etherealmind &#8211; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: lxh</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/on-the-art-network-diagrams-presentation/#comment-871</link>
		<dc:creator>lxh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Mar 2009 08:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>can you write another post about how to do this use Visio?? so i can follow your guide by my vision...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can you write another post about how to do this use Visio?? so i can follow your guide by my vision&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Charlie Allom</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/on-the-art-network-diagrams-presentation/#comment-870</link>
		<dc:creator>Charlie Allom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Mar 2009 18:19:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>speaking of import/export - where did you get your icons from? can you share them?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>speaking of import/export &#8211; where did you get your icons from? can you share them?</p>
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		<title>By: Network Diagrams:Locking the Background Shape &#124; My Etherealmind</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/on-the-art-network-diagrams-presentation/#comment-869</link>
		<dc:creator>Network Diagrams:Locking the Background Shape &#124; My Etherealmind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 23:00:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] also worth looking at why you want to do this in &#8220;On the Art of Network Diagrams and Presentation&#8221; and see the full diagram we are trying to put [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] also worth looking at why you want to do this in &#8220;On the Art of Network Diagrams and Presentation&#8221; and see the full diagram we are trying to put [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Ferro</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/on-the-art-network-diagrams-presentation/#comment-868</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Ferro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:53:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I posted some more on diagram and will probably do some more so keep checking  the site and see what I get up to. 

Diagramming stuff will be here http://etherealmind.com/category/network-diagrams/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I posted some more on diagram and will probably do some more so keep checking  the site and see what I get up to. </p>
<p>Diagramming stuff will be here <a href="http://etherealmind.com/category/network-diagrams/" rel="nofollow">http://etherealmind.com/category/network-diagrams/</a></p>
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		<title>By: The Art of Network Diagrams &#8211; Visio 2007 &#171; Virtualization, Windows, Infrastructure and all that &#8220;stuff&#8221; in-between</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/on-the-art-network-diagrams-presentation/#comment-867</link>
		<dc:creator>The Art of Network Diagrams &#8211; Visio 2007 &#171; Virtualization, Windows, Infrastructure and all that &#8220;stuff&#8221; in-between</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 10:27:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] bow to the Visio skills of Greg Ferro at Ethereal Mind for his series on producing good, easy to understand network diagrams and visual aids ñ I thought I was a Visio wiz with my nice gradient fills  but his series of [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] bow to the Visio skills of Greg Ferro at Ethereal Mind for his series on producing good, easy to understand network diagrams and visual aids ñ I thought I was a Visio wiz with my nice gradient fills  but his series of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Ferro</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/on-the-art-network-diagrams-presentation/#comment-866</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Ferro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Mar 2009 09:44:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure, I wrote another post on how to do this http://etherealmind.com/2009/03/06/network-diagrams-drawing-the-background-shape/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure, I wrote another post on how to do this <a href="http://etherealmind.com/2009/03/06/network-diagrams-drawing-the-background-shape/" rel="nofollow">http://etherealmind.com/2009/03/06/network-diagrams-drawing-the-background-shape/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Vinf_net</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/on-the-art-network-diagrams-presentation/#comment-865</link>
		<dc:creator>Vinf_net</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Mar 2009 23:14:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good post :)

Do you know how do you distort the rectangle in Visio?... I can&#039;t figure it out?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post <img src='http://etherealmind.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Do you know how do you distort the rectangle in Visio?&#8230; I can&#8217;t figure it out?</p>
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		<title>By: Bret</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/on-the-art-network-diagrams-presentation/#comment-864</link>
		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 12:23:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok, now I see it ... :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok, now I see it &#8230; <img src='http://etherealmind.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Bret</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/on-the-art-network-diagrams-presentation/#comment-863</link>
		<dc:creator>Bret</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 07 Mar 2009 12:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;Donít let it be an SSA.

What does SSA stand for?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;Donít let it be an SSA.</p>
<p>What does SSA stand for?</p>
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		<title>By: Network Diagrams: Drawing the Background Shape &#124; My Etherealmind</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/on-the-art-network-diagrams-presentation/#comment-862</link>
		<dc:creator>Network Diagrams: Drawing the Background Shape &#124; My Etherealmind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 17:51:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] here, you might want to subscribe to the RSS feed to here more from me. In my previous post &#8220;On the Art of Network Diagrams and Presentation&#8221; I created shapes and shading. Some people asked how this was done&#8230;.. Draw a [...] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] here, you might want to subscribe to the RSS feed to here more from me. In my previous post &#8220;On the Art of Network Diagrams and Presentation&#8221; I created shapes and shading. Some people asked how this was done&#8230;.. Draw a [...]</p>
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		<title>By: drkfiber</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/on-the-art-network-diagrams-presentation/#comment-861</link>
		<dc:creator>drkfiber</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Mar 2009 01:41:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would love to see a post on technical documentation. Through years of practice I am getting better at it, but it is always nice to compare to others and gain fresh ideas.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would love to see a post on technical documentation. Through years of practice I am getting better at it, but it is always nice to compare to others and gain fresh ideas.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/on-the-art-network-diagrams-presentation/#comment-860</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 11:30:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good stuff!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good stuff!</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Ferro</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/on-the-art-network-diagrams-presentation/#comment-859</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Ferro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 10:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I mention that this is mostly for presales / design / presentation, which I think implies not so much &#039;hands on&#039;. That sort of diagram needs to be somewhat different and has a lot of other information. 

Maybe another post looking at technical documentation then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I mention that this is mostly for presales / design / presentation, which I think implies not so much &#8216;hands on&#8217;. That sort of diagram needs to be somewhat different and has a lot of other information. </p>
<p>Maybe another post looking at technical documentation then.</p>
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		<title>By: Oyvind</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/on-the-art-network-diagrams-presentation/#comment-858</link>
		<dc:creator>Oyvind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 05 Mar 2009 09:23:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Looks pretty, but does it do the job? There is not much information about the network, devices, addressing, etc. How do you solve readability when you add IP addresses, devicenames, link info, speeds, and other stuff. 

I use layers in Visio a lot, to be able to turn on and off the needed information, typically one layer with port numbering, one with interface and subnet IP&#039;s, one with device naming, and so on. Using layers this way I can have one drawing with all the info in once place. I also use one layer 1, one layer 2, and multiple layer 3 logical &quot;views&quot; of the network as different drawings with different layers, to cover all dimensions.

Doing this takes a lot of time, but it&#039;s worth it for the customer and consultants as it makes troubleshooting and canges a lot easier and less risky.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Looks pretty, but does it do the job? There is not much information about the network, devices, addressing, etc. How do you solve readability when you add IP addresses, devicenames, link info, speeds, and other stuff. </p>
<p>I use layers in Visio a lot, to be able to turn on and off the needed information, typically one layer with port numbering, one with interface and subnet IP&#8217;s, one with device naming, and so on. Using layers this way I can have one drawing with all the info in once place. I also use one layer 1, one layer 2, and multiple layer 3 logical &#8220;views&#8221; of the network as different drawings with different layers, to cover all dimensions.</p>
<p>Doing this takes a lot of time, but it&#8217;s worth it for the customer and consultants as it makes troubleshooting and canges a lot easier and less risky.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Ferro</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/on-the-art-network-diagrams-presentation/#comment-857</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Ferro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 22:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I try not to to blame my tools or software. It&#039;s not helpful in the long run. At least Visio is stable and consistent with other MS Office programs. Over the years I have gotten used to it. 

OmniGraffle on the Mac is really much better and easier to use, that is for sure, but even V5.1 doesn&#039;t have perfect import / export although its much better than V4. Maybe they are working on the Visio compatibility some more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I try not to to blame my tools or software. It&#8217;s not helpful in the long run. At least Visio is stable and consistent with other MS Office programs. Over the years I have gotten used to it. </p>
<p>OmniGraffle on the Mac is really much better and easier to use, that is for sure, but even V5.1 doesn&#8217;t have perfect import / export although its much better than V4. Maybe they are working on the Visio compatibility some more.</p>
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		<title>By: Brett Dixon</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/on-the-art-network-diagrams-presentation/#comment-856</link>
		<dc:creator>Brett Dixon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 22:14:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Visio is much more painful than Omnigraffle in my experience. It may be because I have some very basic experience with Adobe Illustrator and similar, but trying to use Visio can be very frustrating as it tries to be helpful in some very annoying ways sometimes.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Visio is much more painful than Omnigraffle in my experience. It may be because I have some very basic experience with Adobe Illustrator and similar, but trying to use Visio can be very frustrating as it tries to be helpful in some very annoying ways sometimes.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Ferro</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/on-the-art-network-diagrams-presentation/#comment-855</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Ferro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 22:06:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>For this post, I used OmniGraffle, but you can do the same things in Visio.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>For this post, I used OmniGraffle, but you can do the same things in Visio.</p>
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		<title>By: akonkol</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/on-the-art-network-diagrams-presentation/#comment-854</link>
		<dc:creator>akonkol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 21:57:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What tool did you use to draw the example diagrams? Is that omnigraffle?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What tool did you use to draw the example diagrams? Is that omnigraffle?</p>
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		<title>By: Calin</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/on-the-art-network-diagrams-presentation/#comment-853</link>
		<dc:creator>Calin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2009 20:51:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>wow...my network diagrams never looked like this :)
nevertheless I would prefer configuring 10 devices that doing a diagram in Visio;

good job!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow&#8230;my network diagrams never looked like this <img src='http://etherealmind.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
nevertheless I would prefer configuring 10 devices that doing a diagram in Visio;</p>
<p>good job!</p>
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