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	<title>Comments on: Network Diagrams: Drawing Complex VLAN Networks With IP Addressing</title>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Jun 2011 17:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Greg,
I like this style for VLAN diags.  Thanks for all of the effort to do this.
One question: How do you get the end of the line to sit right OVER the VLAN line ?
When I have the connection (say from switch to VLAN, the END of the link butts up to the vlan and so the ball that represents the end of it sits off to the side of the line, rather than OVER it (Centered).
Any clue on how to do this ?

Thx.
Don
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Greg,<br />
I like this style for VLAN diags.  Thanks for all of the effort to do this.<br />
One question: How do you get the end of the line to sit right OVER the VLAN line ?<br />
When I have the connection (say from switch to VLAN, the END of the link butts up to the vlan and so the ball that represents the end of it sits off to the side of the line, rather than OVER it (Centered).<br />
Any clue on how to do this ?</p>
<p>Thx.<br />
Don</p>
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		<title>By: Den V B</title>
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		<dc:creator>Den V B</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Jan 2011 09:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>speaking of Dynamic connectors, one can setup routing rules in Page properties dialog to suit one&#039;s needs.
I found dynamic connectors very helpful for L1-L2 diagrams, when i need to place, like, dozens of switches on a sheet, and make sure it&#039;s human (not me) readable. I think what &quot;playing with cubes&quot; part of diagram design process would be a hell without this type of connectors...

And your idea about VLANs is great. it results in a very clear view=)
In my practice, i&#039;m just drawing different-colored lines parallel to physical link representations, and name them at the ends. It&#039;s good enough for 2-5 vlans, but more is such a mess...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>speaking of Dynamic connectors, one can setup routing rules in Page properties dialog to suit one&#8217;s needs.<br />
I found dynamic connectors very helpful for L1-L2 diagrams, when i need to place, like, dozens of switches on a sheet, and make sure it&#8217;s human (not me) readable. I think what &#8220;playing with cubes&#8221; part of diagram design process would be a hell without this type of connectors&#8230;</p>
<p>And your idea about VLANs is great. it results in a very clear view=)<br />
In my practice, i&#8217;m just drawing different-colored lines parallel to physical link representations, and name them at the ends. It&#8217;s good enough for 2-5 vlans, but more is such a mess&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:22:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A great way of representing VLANs. Have you worked out a solution for trunk connections though in these type of diagrams?

Thanks

Andrew</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A great way of representing VLANs. Have you worked out a solution for trunk connections though in these type of diagrams?</p>
<p>Thanks</p>
<p>Andrew</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Ferro</title>
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		<dc:creator>Greg Ferro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 19 Jul 2009 19:33:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Fernando

Thanks for the tip on layers, I do use them quite a bit myself. Possibly will do an article in future about them.</description>
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<p>Thanks for the tip on layers, I do use them quite a bit myself. Possibly will do an article in future about them.</p>
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		<title>By: Fernando</title>
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		<dc:creator>Fernando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 03:28:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Greg,

I follow this series of article with great interest, as I often get to draw network perimeters for both design and operation purposes. Thank you for all the information!

One thing I&#039;ve used with some (moderate) success is the use of Visio layers - L2 connections and labels on one layer, L3 information on another and traffic flow diagrams on another one. I can&#039;t get all on the same diagram, but at least I have one major diagram I update and generate several snapshots off of it.

Thanks again!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Greg,</p>
<p>I follow this series of article with great interest, as I often get to draw network perimeters for both design and operation purposes. Thank you for all the information!</p>
<p>One thing I&#8217;ve used with some (moderate) success is the use of Visio layers &#8211; L2 connections and labels on one layer, L3 information on another and traffic flow diagrams on another one. I can&#8217;t get all on the same diagram, but at least I have one major diagram I update and generate several snapshots off of it.</p>
<p>Thanks again!</p>
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