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	<title>Comments on: Rant: Which of These 10GB Adapters Is Not the Same ?</title>
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		<title>By: stretch</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/cisco-intel-10gb-adapters/#comment-1770</link>
		<dc:creator>stretch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 18:16:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey, those hologram stickers aren&#039;t cheap.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey, those hologram stickers aren&#8217;t cheap.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Ferro</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/cisco-intel-10gb-adapters/#comment-1769</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Ferro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think that the fake stuff is going to be a quality problem. Not to mention resellers who get find it mixed up with the green channel and mix grey market  and fake into an unholy mix.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think that the fake stuff is going to be a quality problem. Not to mention resellers who get find it mixed up with the green channel and mix grey market  and fake into an unholy mix.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Ferro</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/cisco-intel-10gb-adapters/#comment-1768</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Ferro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:39:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Technically not. Once it is installed in a Cisco chassis, the maintenance of that chassis covers the part (but only if you have Cisco maintenance). Resellers may provide their own sparing capability and tend to charge a percentage of everything sold.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Technically not. Once it is installed in a Cisco chassis, the maintenance of that chassis covers the part (but only if you have Cisco maintenance). Resellers may provide their own sparing capability and tend to charge a percentage of everything sold.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Ferro</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/cisco-intel-10gb-adapters/#comment-1767</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Ferro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 13:37:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Could be considered environmentally friendly not to include all the stuff. But yes, Cisco minimum price for goods is a unfair reflection of their transaction cost.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Could be considered environmentally friendly not to include all the stuff. But yes, Cisco minimum price for goods is a unfair reflection of their transaction cost.</p>
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		<title>By: Sergei</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/cisco-intel-10gb-adapters/#comment-1766</link>
		<dc:creator>Sergei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 12:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&gt;It should be noted that in previous Cisco PIX firewalls that Intel Server NIC could be directly installed and worked fine.

Actually, even DLink NICs worked fine in PIX :)

I can confirm that &quot;fake&quot; VWICs work but not always fine - they have problems with clocking in two-port models.

On the other hand, it was a nightmare to troubleshoot fake C2950, it&#039;s a real sh.t.

And also we can remember here some models of older &quot;Cisco&quot; servers like MCSs, etc...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;It should be noted that in previous Cisco PIX firewalls that Intel Server NIC could be directly installed and worked fine.</p>
<p>Actually, even DLink NICs worked fine in PIX <img src='http://etherealmind.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I can confirm that &#8220;fake&#8221; VWICs work but not always fine &#8211; they have problems with clocking in two-port models.</p>
<p>On the other hand, it was a nightmare to troubleshoot fake C2950, it&#8217;s a real sh.t.</p>
<p>And also we can remember here some models of older &#8220;Cisco&#8221; servers like MCSs, etc&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: rxtx</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/cisco-intel-10gb-adapters/#comment-1765</link>
		<dc:creator>rxtx</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 12:34:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hmm, reminds me of the rack mounts we got for an 1800 recently. £60 for two bent bits of metal and 6 screws - not even any rack nuts! Surely that kind of thing should come with the router anyway. Compared to some other vendors Cisco are really getting put to shame lately. If you buy a Riverbed you get everything you could possibly need in a little accessory box - cables for each interface (straight and crossed and decent length), rack mounts, about 10 packets of different screws for every potential situation (which all have one or two spares), rack nuts and a screwdriver!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hmm, reminds me of the rack mounts we got for an 1800 recently. £60 for two bent bits of metal and 6 screws &#8211; not even any rack nuts! Surely that kind of thing should come with the router anyway. Compared to some other vendors Cisco are really getting put to shame lately. If you buy a Riverbed you get everything you could possibly need in a little accessory box &#8211; cables for each interface (straight and crossed and decent length), rack mounts, about 10 packets of different screws for every potential situation (which all have one or two spares), rack nuts and a screwdriver!</p>
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		<title>By: Matt Bennett</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/cisco-intel-10gb-adapters/#comment-1764</link>
		<dc:creator>Matt Bennett</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 11:44:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonder if it includes support!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wonder if it includes support!</p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy Larsson</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/cisco-intel-10gb-adapters/#comment-1763</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy Larsson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 09:41:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just a related note: A customer of mine discussed an invoice full of Cisco-equipment:
- &quot;What is that part, XXXX? Can it be a redundant fan?&quot;
- &quot;For $200? No way. From Cisco you wont get anything that spins for that price. I bet it¥s a dummy-plate.&quot;

;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just a related note: A customer of mine discussed an invoice full of Cisco-equipment:<br />
- &#8220;What is that part, XXXX? Can it be a redundant fan?&#8221;<br />
- &#8220;For $200? No way. From Cisco you wont get anything that spins for that price. I bet it¥s a dummy-plate.&#8221;<br />
 <img src='http://etherealmind.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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