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		<title>By: Greg Ferro</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/certification-only-you-can-do-the-study/comment-page-1/#comment-4138</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Ferro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 20:05:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While I respect your point of view, you should also see mine. I have fifty candidates, who do I choose ? 

In terms of giving something back, that is the entire purpose of this blog. To share knowledge and discuss freely. 

Publishing study information is difficult and I have copyright concerns becuase of where I get my material from. I will, however, try to do more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While I respect your point of view, you should also see mine. I have fifty candidates, who do I choose ? </p>
<p>In terms of giving something back, that is the entire purpose of this blog. To share knowledge and discuss freely. </p>
<p>Publishing study information is difficult and I have copyright concerns becuase of where I get my material from. I will, however, try to do more.</p>
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		<title>By: Stuart</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/certification-only-you-can-do-the-study/comment-page-1/#comment-4135</link>
		<dc:creator>Stuart</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Dec 2009 18:52:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>By and large I agree with all of your sentiments but I do also agree that not having a cert doesn&#039;t make you any less of a potential hire.

What I do take some objection to is your callous disregard of teh cost of books, exams and your end attitude (it would apper to me) of those that say they can&#039;t afford it. You counter with &quot;how much is your career worth?&quot; but what about those that simply cannot afford it? 

I&#039;ve been there and got the t-shirt (picked up free at an Expo somewhere). There were many days when my job was paying just enough to cover my bills and food (mostly) yet I&#039;ve always wanted to better myself and move forward. There are those that don&#039;t want this and your question is then potentially valid.

Some folks - I was one - didn&#039;t want to go into debt or borrow on the never-never (look where that&#039;s got us all now) yet we get callously (it seems to me) accused of not wanting to better ourselves or invest in our careers. I was fortunate to get a reasonable job without the cert and was able to start buying books and garteful that this same employer was willing to refund the exam costs.

Instead of berating all these folks - why not give back to them. If they can&#039;t afford to buy a particular book then offer to buy it fo rthem? Or give away your old study material? Or ... well I&#039;m sure you can come up with your own ideas. Me - I give away my old stuff to any that want. Some of it may be out of date but it&#039;s a starting place at least.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>By and large I agree with all of your sentiments but I do also agree that not having a cert doesn’t make you any less of a potential hire.</p>
<p>What I do take some objection to is your callous disregard of teh cost of books, exams and your end attitude (it would apper to me) of those that say they can’t afford it. You counter with “how much is your career worth?” but what about those that simply cannot afford it? </p>
<p>I’ve been there and got the t-shirt (picked up free at an Expo somewhere). There were many days when my job was paying just enough to cover my bills and food (mostly) yet I’ve always wanted to better myself and move forward. There are those that don’t want this and your question is then potentially valid.</p>
<p>Some folks — I was one — didn’t want to go into debt or borrow on the never-never (look where that’s got us all now) yet we get callously (it seems to me) accused of not wanting to better ourselves or invest in our careers. I was fortunate to get a reasonable job without the cert and was able to start buying books and garteful that this same employer was willing to refund the exam costs.</p>
<p>Instead of berating all these folks — why not give back to them. If they can’t afford to buy a particular book then offer to buy it fo rthem? Or give away your old study material? Or … well I’m sure you can come up with your own ideas. Me — I give away my old stuff to any that want. Some of it may be out of date but it’s a starting place at least.</p>
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		<title>By: Opinion: Certification matters &#8211; Experience less so &#8211; Part 1 &#124; My Etherealmind</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/certification-only-you-can-do-the-study/comment-page-1/#comment-3150</link>
		<dc:creator>Opinion: Certification matters &#8211; Experience less so &#8211; Part 1 &#124; My Etherealmind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Aug 2009 11:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Certification Matters &#8211; Only you can do the Study Part 3 [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Fragments &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Gaining Knowledge - what&#8217;s the best way to do it?</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/certification-only-you-can-do-the-study/comment-page-1/#comment-1950</link>
		<dc:creator>Fragments &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Gaining Knowledge - what&#8217;s the best way to do it?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 09:54:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] his third post, he discusses various approaches to gaining the knowledge you need to pass a certification exam. It’s debatable whether the certification exams really test your knowledge or memorization of [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Opinion:Certification Matters -Part 2- Knowledge or Experience - Which is more valuable ? &#124; My Etherealmind</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/certification-only-you-can-do-the-study/comment-page-1/#comment-1603</link>
		<dc:creator>Opinion:Certification Matters -Part 2- Knowledge or Experience - Which is more valuable ? &#124; My Etherealmind</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:45:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Matters, Experiences Less So - Part 1 Certification Matters - Only you can do the Study Part 3 Certification Matters - Exams are not relevant to Real Life - Part 4   Share and [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Greg Ferro</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/certification-only-you-can-do-the-study/comment-page-1/#comment-1582</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Ferro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:52:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would not choose to work somehwere like to would feel  trapped and uninspired  in a place like that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would not choose to work somehwere like to would feel  trapped and uninspired  in a place like that.</p>
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		<title>By: shef</title>
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		<dc:creator>shef</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 15:22:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i have seen customers, where managers prefer to train stuff and pay for that, but only without certification (because, if stuff will have some cert&#039;s, company should pay more) :/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i have seen customers, where managers prefer to train stuff and pay for that, but only without certification (because, if stuff will have some cert’s, company should pay more) :/</p>
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