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	<title>Comments on: Rant: Who Is Robert Williams and Certguard ? And Are They Moral or Just Plain Stupid ?</title>
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		<title>By: Bobaloo</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/certguard-ethan-banks-exam-cheating-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-2334</link>
		<dc:creator>Bobaloo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Feb 2009 07:20:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read some pretty unprofessional stuff by Robert Williams on Brian Madden.com recently. The guy has no professionalism about him. He spews insults and can&#039;t take criticism or alternate views at all. CEO material he&#039;s not. He has no partners and is crusading on his own. Self proclaimed guru of saving us all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read some pretty unprofessional stuff by Robert Williams on Brian Madden.com recently. The guy has no professionalism about him. He spews insults and can’t take criticism or alternate views at all. CEO material he’s not. He has no partners and is crusading on his own. Self proclaimed guru of saving us all.</p>
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		<title>By: neo</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/certguard-ethan-banks-exam-cheating-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-836</link>
		<dc:creator>neo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 12:43:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People like you Mr. Michael are the result we have so much hatred in this world. Becuase people like you create artifical threats, baseless accusations and pass on your judgement as if you were the king of all man kind.

You are clearly intimidating people by the decertification bull. Have you look in your self in the mirror lately. I guess not! How could you if you&#039;v got that big head with a tiny brain of yours stuck deep in side Robert&#039;s as$. 

Anyone with a common sence knows you are talking utter rubish and nonsence.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People like you Mr. Michael are the result we have so much hatred in this world. Becuase people like you create artifical threats, baseless accusations and pass on your judgement as if you were the king of all man kind.</p>
<p>You are clearly intimidating people by the decertification bull. Have you look in your self in the mirror lately. I guess not! How could you if you’v got that big head with a tiny brain of yours stuck deep in side Robert’s as$. </p>
<p>Anyone with a common sence knows you are talking utter rubish and nonsence.</p>
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		<title>By: neo</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/certguard-ethan-banks-exam-cheating-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-835</link>
		<dc:creator>neo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 07 Aug 2008 12:37:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michael D. Alligood on June 20th, 2008 6:00 am
&quot;Are you honestly this ignorant; “Do the exam vendors need his help to solve this problem ?”That would be the equivalent of saying the police have no need for community watch programs. Neighborhood Watch, Crime Stoppers, and other community based programs assist law enforcement officers daily. &quot;

Michael. Crime stoppers and neighborhood watches dont go around accusing people just for the heck of it. Williams basis his conclusions on assumptions drawn from his CSI-filed brain. He and possibily you, live in a dream world where you belive everything on anything without looking at the facts and most of all, using your god given common sence. But hey, I guess you havent used it for such a long time that it got rusted. 

Let me burst your dream bubble Michael. (A) You cant prove in ANYWAY that the person cheated by using braindumps. You do that to me and I will sue your as$ for invasion of privacy so before you argue, cork it will ya? because you and I both know you are wrong, just wont admit it. 

(B) Big vendors dont give a damn about you cheating. Why because they know brain dumps exists. If they started making questiones quougher and increasing the question pool size to something decent, this problem wont be a problem any more. How bloody hard it is to do that? But why they dont, is because they in it for      making money. Get that in that tiny brain of yours. 

(C) Finaly! Just who the fcuk are you anyway to tell me I cheated? If I did, thats my problem, my headache to deal with on the job. 9/10 times I will LEARN on the job. So just who emplyed you to be the company&#039;s right hand man eh? If you would Stop kissing Mr. Robert Williams as$ so much you might acctually grow some common sence back!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michael D. Alligood on June 20th, 2008 6:00 am<br />
“Are you honestly this ignorant; “Do the exam vendors need his help to solve this problem ?”That would be the equivalent of saying the police have no need for community watch programs. Neighborhood Watch, Crime Stoppers, and other community based programs assist law enforcement officers daily. ”</p>
<p>Michael. Crime stoppers and neighborhood watches dont go around accusing people just for the heck of it. Williams basis his conclusions on assumptions drawn from his CSI-filed brain. He and possibily you, live in a dream world where you belive everything on anything without looking at the facts and most of all, using your god given common sence. But hey, I guess you havent used it for such a long time that it got rusted. </p>
<p>Let me burst your dream bubble Michael. (A) You cant prove in ANYWAY that the person cheated by using braindumps. You do that to me and I will sue your as$ for invasion of privacy so before you argue, cork it will ya? because you and I both know you are wrong, just wont admit it. </p>
<p>(B) Big vendors dont give a damn about you cheating. Why because they know brain dumps exists. If they started making questiones quougher and increasing the question pool size to something decent, this problem wont be a problem any more. How bloody hard it is to do that? But why they dont, is because they in it for      making money. Get that in that tiny brain of yours. </p>
<p>© Finaly! Just who the fcuk are you anyway to tell me I cheated? If I did, thats my problem, my headache to deal with on the job. 9/10 times I will LEARN on the job. So just who emplyed you to be the company’s right hand man eh? If you would Stop kissing Mr. Robert Williams as$ so much you might acctually grow some common sence back!</p>
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		<title>By: Michael D. Alligood</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/certguard-ethan-banks-exam-cheating-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-324</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael D. Alligood</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Jun 2008 06:00:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Are you honestly this ignorant; &quot;Do the exam vendors need his help to solve this problem ?&quot;

That would be the equivalent of saying the police have no need for community watch programs. Neighborhood Watch, Crime Stoppers, and other community based programs assist law enforcement officers daily. 

Are you aware of the massive problem with I.T. certifications? The term &quot;paper certification&quot; just doesn&#039;t apply to Microsoft. Your precious Cisco community is littered with them as well. Some are just not that stupid to advertise they use it on their blog. 

Stop placing people such as Ethan on pedestals. He reviewed braindump material, blogged it, admitted his ignorance, took down his blog, put it back up and everyone thinks he is a victim in all this??? 

Are CCIEs above suspicion? Even when they blog about it? The question is not whether Robert Williams and CertGuard are just plain stupid. The question should be is Ethan Banks for posting he used TestKing material and endorsing it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Are you honestly this ignorant; “Do the exam vendors need his help to solve this problem ?”</p>
<p>That would be the equivalent of saying the police have no need for community watch programs. Neighborhood Watch, Crime Stoppers, and other community based programs assist law enforcement officers daily. </p>
<p>Are you aware of the massive problem with I.T. certifications? The term “paper certification” just doesn’t apply to Microsoft. Your precious Cisco community is littered with them as well. Some are just not that stupid to advertise they use it on their blog. </p>
<p>Stop placing people such as Ethan on pedestals. He reviewed braindump material, blogged it, admitted his ignorance, took down his blog, put it back up and everyone thinks he is a victim in all this??? </p>
<p>Are CCIEs above suspicion? Even when they blog about it? The question is not whether Robert Williams and CertGuard are just plain stupid. The question should be is Ethan Banks for posting he used TestKing material and endorsing it?</p>
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		<title>By: ardenpackeer.com &#124; Blog: The Whole Ethan Thing&#8230;. &#187;</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/certguard-ethan-banks-exam-cheating-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-323</link>
		<dc:creator>ardenpackeer.com &#124; Blog: The Whole Ethan Thing&#8230;. &#187;</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 11:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] If you&#039;re new here, you may want to subscribe to my RSS feed. Thanks for visiting!No doubt if your a follower of the other CCIE blogs, and a regular reader of groupstudy you would have seen this whole thing about Robert Williams from CertGuard slamming Ethan Banks for cheating on his exam. CCIEPursuit summed it up nicely, as did Matt Hill, Collin McNamara, Deon Botha and Greg Ferro. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[…] If you’re new here, you may want to subscribe to my RSS feed. Thanks for visiting!No doubt if your a follower of the other CCIE blogs, and a regular reader of groupstudy you would have seen this whole thing about Robert Williams from CertGuard slamming Ethan Banks for cheating on his exam. CCIEPursuit summed it up nicely, as did Matt Hill, Collin McNamara, Deon Botha and Greg Ferro. […]</p>
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		<title>By: Certguard and a Blog &#124; Network Ninja</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/certguard-ethan-banks-exam-cheating-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-322</link>
		<dc:creator>Certguard and a Blog &#124; Network Ninja</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:25:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Since late last week there has been some waves in the online networking community about a post by Robert Williams from CertGuard. Since that post many things have happened, I am however not going to talk about the specific situation, how it is probably affecting the mentioned CCIE etc. Some notable comment can be read from members of the networking community like Colin McNamara, Arden Packeer and Greg Ferro [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[…] Since late last week there has been some waves in the online networking community about a post by Robert Williams from CertGuard. Since that post many things have happened, I am however not going to talk about the specific situation, how it is probably affecting the mentioned CCIE etc. Some notable comment can be read from members of the networking community like Colin McNamara, Arden Packeer and Greg Ferro […]</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Ferro</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/certguard-ethan-banks-exam-cheating-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-321</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Ferro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 19 Jun 2008 06:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thats a great link and good to see that the vendors are doing something. Creepy though, keystrokes and mouse movements to build a profile, sheesh.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thats a great link and good to see that the vendors are doing something. Creepy though, keystrokes and mouse movements to build a profile, sheesh.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/certguard-ethan-banks-exam-cheating-stupid/comment-page-1/#comment-310</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All good points, except for the comment that &#039;no one else is doing anything about certification cheats.&#039;

See this recent interview with Cisco and Vue about certification security: http://www.trainingindustry.com/it/TO_Article.asp?ID=7882

Seems like they are doing a lot. They just may not be heavily publicizing the fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All good points, except for the comment that ‘no one else is doing anything about certification cheats.’</p>
<p>See this recent interview with Cisco and Vue about certification security: <a href="http://www.trainingindustry.com/it/TO_Article.asp?ID=7882" rel="nofollow">http://www.trainingindustry.com/it/TO_Article.asp?ID=7882</a></p>
<p>Seems like they are doing a lot. They just may not be heavily publicizing the fact.</p>
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