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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/books-e-books-copyright-money/#comment-1730</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 15:33:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The economics just aren&#039;t in their favour. Look at the books that are getting revised, they&#039;re fairly generic and targeted to a larger audience. These are the ones that are making enough money to pay someone to revise. They&#039;re also the ones earning out their advances to make it worth the author&#039;s while.

IMHO the better model is to have 60-100 page eBooks on certain specific topics instead of 500 page monsters on the greater topic. eg instead of &quot;Everything you wanted to know about the ASA&quot; then it&#039;s &quot;Enough knowledge to get your ASA out of the box and protecting you from bad guys.&quot;, and maybe another one on &quot;high availability for the ASA&quot; and so forth. The cost would be a lot less and you&#039;d be able to get more money to the author, and a better chance of getting revisions out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The economics just aren&#8217;t in their favour. Look at the books that are getting revised, they&#8217;re fairly generic and targeted to a larger audience. These are the ones that are making enough money to pay someone to revise. They&#8217;re also the ones earning out their advances to make it worth the author&#8217;s while.</p>
<p>IMHO the better model is to have 60-100 page eBooks on certain specific topics instead of 500 page monsters on the greater topic. eg instead of &#8220;Everything you wanted to know about the ASA&#8221; then it&#8217;s &#8220;Enough knowledge to get your ASA out of the box and protecting you from bad guys.&#8221;, and maybe another one on &#8220;high availability for the ASA&#8221; and so forth. The cost would be a lot less and you&#8217;d be able to get more money to the author, and a better chance of getting revisions out.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/books-e-books-copyright-money/#comment-1729</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 15:07:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most authors don&#039;t make a living off of writing books. They&#039;ll do books + consulting, or books + other writing. I&#039;m sure there are exceptions, just like a fraction of people will also make a living playing basketball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most authors don&#8217;t make a living off of writing books. They&#8217;ll do books + consulting, or books + other writing. I&#8217;m sure there are exceptions, just like a fraction of people will also make a living playing basketball.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Ferro</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/books-e-books-copyright-money/#comment-1728</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Ferro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 14:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t want rich, but I would like to make a living out of it. Sadly, consulting makes a lot more money.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t want rich, but I would like to make a living out of it. Sadly, consulting makes a lot more money.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/books-e-books-copyright-money/#comment-1727</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 14:20:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I guess everyone&#039;s motivations for writing are different. The money was nice, but I went into it knowing I was probably only going to get my advance and I was OK with that. I didn&#039;t expect to get rich, and I didn&#039;t :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I guess everyone&#8217;s motivations for writing are different. The money was nice, but I went into it knowing I was probably only going to get my advance and I was OK with that. I didn&#8217;t expect to get rich, and I didn&#8217;t <img src='http://etherealmind.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Dmitri Kalintsev</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/books-e-books-copyright-money/#comment-1726</link>
		<dc:creator>Dmitri Kalintsev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 10:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The cost of distributing an e-book approaches zero as there are no costs associated with a physical good.

Yes, there are costs in production and potentially marketing, but beyond this it is practically pure profit.

I do not see how an e-book should cost anything more than 10-15% of the hardcover version. I also think that with the move to e-books authors should be rewarded much better to stimulate the creativity. This very well may encourage regular updates to good books (and will be MUCH easier with e-books to do, too. Conceivably, there&#039;s nothing that could stop publishers from offering an &quot;up to date guarantee&quot; for a premium, which would ensure you will always have most current edition).

Anyway, I think the brave new world of opportunity is out there waiting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The cost of distributing an e-book approaches zero as there are no costs associated with a physical good.</p>
<p>Yes, there are costs in production and potentially marketing, but beyond this it is practically pure profit.</p>
<p>I do not see how an e-book should cost anything more than 10-15% of the hardcover version. I also think that with the move to e-books authors should be rewarded much better to stimulate the creativity. This very well may encourage regular updates to good books (and will be MUCH easier with e-books to do, too. Conceivably, there&#8217;s nothing that could stop publishers from offering an &#8220;up to date guarantee&#8221; for a premium, which would ensure you will always have most current edition).</p>
<p>Anyway, I think the brave new world of opportunity is out there waiting.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Ferro</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/books-e-books-copyright-money/#comment-1725</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Ferro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 09:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sean

I agree and have experienced some new opportunities (such the the Tech Field Day) from writing this blog. But, really, you want to make money from the book, not from other work that may never happen and requires even more work to get that money. No ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sean</p>
<p>I agree and have experienced some new opportunities (such the the Tech Field Day) from writing this blog. But, really, you want to make money from the book, not from other work that may never happen and requires even more work to get that money. No ?</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Ferro</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/books-e-books-copyright-money/#comment-1724</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Ferro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 09:58:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I can see your point, however when I did a cost analysis they don&#039;t actually overcharge. The bookshop gets 50% of selling price, the publisher gets 45% (includes cost of printing and distribution), and author gets 5%. While those numbers are skewed, they do reflect the actual costs. 

The real question is whether the publisher will reduce the price of e-books by 50% when e-books eliminate the bookshop and all its costs.

I bet they don&#039;t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I can see your point, however when I did a cost analysis they don&#8217;t actually overcharge. The bookshop gets 50% of selling price, the publisher gets 45% (includes cost of printing and distribution), and author gets 5%. While those numbers are skewed, they do reflect the actual costs. </p>
<p>The real question is whether the publisher will reduce the price of e-books by 50% when e-books eliminate the bookshop and all its costs.</p>
<p>I bet they don&#8217;t.</p>
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		<title>By: Greg Ferro</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/books-e-books-copyright-money/#comment-1723</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Ferro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 09:55:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s true, but why don&#039;t the authors update them every three or four years ? [I don&#039;t know the answer to that question, I am wondering though ?] </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s true, but why don&#8217;t the authors update them every three or four years ? [I don't know the answer to that question, I am wondering though ?] </p>
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		<title>By: Greg Ferro</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/books-e-books-copyright-money/#comment-1722</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg Ferro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 09:54:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I couldn&#039;t live without my O&#039;Reilly Safari Subscription these days. I have bought and downloaded several textbooks from there as well as continuing to read old and new titles online.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I couldn&#8217;t live without my O&#8217;Reilly Safari Subscription these days. I have bought and downloaded several textbooks from there as well as continuing to read old and new titles online.</p>
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		<title>By: Marko Milivojevic</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/books-e-books-copyright-money/#comment-1721</link>
		<dc:creator>Marko Milivojevic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 09:41:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One can have perfectly legitimate and very impressive e-book collection. For one, I started buying books when I discovered Safari and their subscription service. 

From time to time I buy hardcopy books, but I do most of my reading on the screen now. I sense that&#039;ll change when e-book readers become more available (and less geo-restricted, which is an utter nonsense to begin with).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One can have perfectly legitimate and very impressive e-book collection. For one, I started buying books when I discovered Safari and their subscription service. </p>
<p>From time to time I buy hardcopy books, but I do most of my reading on the screen now. I sense that&#8217;ll change when e-book readers become more available (and less geo-restricted, which is an utter nonsense to begin with).</p>
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		<title>By: Darby Weaver</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/books-e-books-copyright-money/#comment-1720</link>
		<dc:creator>Darby Weaver</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 05:48:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great article.  The people who should probably read it are busy downloading right now.

We are living in the &quot;quick fix&quot; and &quot;me&quot; generation.

I posted a picture of 2 of my bookshelves and a triple CCIE who is a trainer said he did not have but a few real books &quot;but his e-books collection&quot; is as impressive. 

The fact is file-sharing has obliterated any chance of a person earning a decent income writing books - not just tech books either.

It&#039;s a sad fact.

People don&#039;t realize that if they want to earn &quot;mythical incomes&quot; the economy has to be functioning correctly.

Most people can&#039;t look outside of the mirror in front of them and come up with a garden variety of excuses.

Me...  I don&#039;t mind browsing ebooks or having them available... however I buy my books - sometimes used but I like to have them close by and available when I need them.  Just me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great article.  The people who should probably read it are busy downloading right now.</p>
<p>We are living in the &#8220;quick fix&#8221; and &#8220;me&#8221; generation.</p>
<p>I posted a picture of 2 of my bookshelves and a triple CCIE who is a trainer said he did not have but a few real books &#8220;but his e-books collection&#8221; is as impressive. </p>
<p>The fact is file-sharing has obliterated any chance of a person earning a decent income writing books &#8211; not just tech books either.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a sad fact.</p>
<p>People don&#8217;t realize that if they want to earn &#8220;mythical incomes&#8221; the economy has to be functioning correctly.</p>
<p>Most people can&#8217;t look outside of the mirror in front of them and come up with a garden variety of excuses.</p>
<p>Me&#8230;  I don&#8217;t mind browsing ebooks or having them available&#8230; however I buy my books &#8211; sometimes used but I like to have them close by and available when I need them.  Just me.</p>
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		<title>By: Justin Wilson</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/books-e-books-copyright-money/#comment-1719</link>
		<dc:creator>Justin Wilson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 22:32:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Books tend to be out of date quickly too, especially in the IT/networking world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Books tend to be out of date quickly too, especially in the IT/networking world.</p>
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		<title>By: Dmitri Kalintsev</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/books-e-books-copyright-money/#comment-1718</link>
		<dc:creator>Dmitri Kalintsev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 22:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The two major contributors to piracy are the inflated price (of which, as you&#039;ve rightfully pointed out, the author gets bugger all) and restricted availability.

Making books easy to buy and handle around (like borrow) and bringing the price to within the reason will make piracy obsolete.

Yes, it will take time for this to happen. And I hope Apple will do something about it, as the opportunity is certainly there, all right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The two major contributors to piracy are the inflated price (of which, as you&#8217;ve rightfully pointed out, the author gets bugger all) and restricted availability.</p>
<p>Making books easy to buy and handle around (like borrow) and bringing the price to within the reason will make piracy obsolete.</p>
<p>Yes, it will take time for this to happen. And I hope Apple will do something about it, as the opportunity is certainly there, all right.</p>
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		<title>By: Sean</title>
		<link>http://etherealmind.com/books-e-books-copyright-money/#comment-1717</link>
		<dc:creator>Sean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 15 Jan 2010 21:35:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Having written two books myself, I&#039;ve found the $/hr for the book isn&#039;t good, but the spinoffs are great. I&#039;ve made a good amount of money writing articles, book content, and tech editing based on my being published and having a relationship with some publishers and my agent.

I&#039;d wager that the reason many books don&#039;t get a second edition is not because the author didn&#039;t want to, but because the book didn&#039;t earn out its advance and/or the publisher didn&#039;t make enough money to make it worth their while. If it was a profitable venture for the publisher, they&#039;d simply find another author to do the revision.

FWIW it&#039;s certainly possible to write while having a full time job. Writing a book is a lot of work, but doesn&#039;t need to be a full time gig.

Sean</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Having written two books myself, I&#8217;ve found the $/hr for the book isn&#8217;t good, but the spinoffs are great. I&#8217;ve made a good amount of money writing articles, book content, and tech editing based on my being published and having a relationship with some publishers and my agent.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d wager that the reason many books don&#8217;t get a second edition is not because the author didn&#8217;t want to, but because the book didn&#8217;t earn out its advance and/or the publisher didn&#8217;t make enough money to make it worth their while. If it was a profitable venture for the publisher, they&#8217;d simply find another author to do the revision.</p>
<p>FWIW it&#8217;s certainly possible to write while having a full time job. Writing a book is a lot of work, but doesn&#8217;t need to be a full time gig.</p>
<p>Sean</p>
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