Comments on: Blessay: Working for a Reseller or End User Is Different Like Doctoring and Parenting http://etherealmind.com/blessay-working-for-a-reseller-or-end-user-is-different-like-doctoring-and-parenting/ Network design, architecture, thinking, working. Tech. Fri, 10 Feb 2012 18:43:00 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Roland http://etherealmind.com/blessay-working-for-a-reseller-or-end-user-is-different-like-doctoring-and-parenting/#comment-1483 Roland Wed, 04 Nov 2009 09:45:10 +0000 http://etherealmind.com/?p=2018#comment-1483 I work for a reseller and I often configure the most basic features of the devices I install. There's no time for r&d or to test more complicated but efficient solutions. I'm limited by the sales, I've to implement what they sell so if they have just basic knowledge of the technology how can I work on more interesting projects? Maybe working for a big reseller with medium-long term projects could be more interesting for the technical staff like me. I work for a reseller and I often configure the most basic features of the devices I install. There’s no time for r&d or to test more complicated but efficient solutions. I’m limited by the sales, I’ve to implement what they sell so if they have just basic knowledge of the technology how can I work on more interesting projects? Maybe working for a big reseller with medium-long term projects could be more interesting for the technical staff like me.

]]> By: Greg Ferro http://etherealmind.com/blessay-working-for-a-reseller-or-end-user-is-different-like-doctoring-and-parenting/#comment-1482 Greg Ferro Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:29:44 +0000 http://etherealmind.com/?p=2018#comment-1482 Your analogy works as well but fails to focus on the personal issue of what type of life you choose to lead. In the sense that you are using, the pimp/handyman/carer model in a practical description of the differences in view, but not a personal experience of those situations. It's not as emotionally powerful, in my opinion. Your analogy works as well but fails to focus on the personal issue of what type of life you choose to lead. In the sense that you are using, the pimp/handyman/carer model in a practical description of the differences in view, but not a personal experience of those situations. It’s not as emotionally powerful, in my opinion.

]]> By: Greg Ferro http://etherealmind.com/blessay-working-for-a-reseller-or-end-user-is-different-like-doctoring-and-parenting/#comment-1481 Greg Ferro Tue, 03 Nov 2009 13:27:34 +0000 http://etherealmind.com/?p=2018#comment-1481 You would think so, but alas, that's not true. The Reseller is always looking to extract maximum profit and thus does the least amount possible to meet the SLA. This means that nothing can be done 'right', only cheap. That very quickly becomes frustrating. You would think so, but alas, that’s not true. The Reseller is always looking to extract maximum profit and thus does the least amount possible to meet the SLA. This means that nothing can be done ‘right’, only cheap. That very quickly becomes frustrating.

]]> By: Not-Really http://etherealmind.com/blessay-working-for-a-reseller-or-end-user-is-different-like-doctoring-and-parenting/#comment-1480 Not-Really Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:45:14 +0000 http://etherealmind.com/?p=2018#comment-1480 One other thing: Working for a end-user/customer has access to less technical support? Really? Technical Support from Vendors is not only specific to the vendor but to the end user themselves. It amazes me how many people will complain about support from a company but when you see how they navigate the process its really the user not the vendor, this is an experience thing that can not be bought but learned from working the process over and over agian. One other thing: Working for a end-user/customer has access to less technical support? Really? Technical Support from Vendors is not only specific to the vendor but to the end user themselves. It amazes me how many people will complain about support from a company but when you see how they navigate the process its really the user not the vendor, this is an experience thing that can not be bought but learned from working the process over and over agian.

]]> By: bad designer http://etherealmind.com/blessay-working-for-a-reseller-or-end-user-is-different-like-doctoring-and-parenting/#comment-1479 bad designer Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:43:16 +0000 http://etherealmind.com/?p=2018#comment-1479 yikes somehow the last post got posted on its own... ..to continue... In terms of career then going for the biggest brand names (always AND must) pay off... Most companies will take a look at a CV with lots of brands and go "wow". That is, of course the whole point behind branding ;-).. In terms of compensation Independent consulting > Resellers >banks> Operators > Vendors. (In general) yikes somehow the last post got posted on its own…

..to continue…

In terms of career then going for the biggest brand names (always AND must) pay off… Most companies will take a look at a CV with lots of brands and go “wow”. That is, of course the whole point behind branding ;-) ..

In terms of compensation

Independent consulting > Resellers >banks> Operators > Vendors. (In general)

]]> By: bad designer http://etherealmind.com/blessay-working-for-a-reseller-or-end-user-is-different-like-doctoring-and-parenting/#comment-1478 bad designer Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:38:10 +0000 http://etherealmind.com/?p=2018#comment-1478 Having worked at all and more, in the carrier space... I can summarise my POV. I learned the most in operators, having to innovate and match business requirements and worry about cost effectiveness. I had access to Industry technology leaders for my projects. I learned less at vendors where my aforementioned knowledge was resold to other operators. Having worked at all and more, in the carrier space… I can summarise my POV.

I learned the most in operators, having to innovate and match business requirements and worry about cost effectiveness. I had access to Industry technology leaders for my projects.

I learned less at vendors where my aforementioned knowledge was resold to other operators.

]]> By: Not-Really http://etherealmind.com/blessay-working-for-a-reseller-or-end-user-is-different-like-doctoring-and-parenting/#comment-1477 Not-Really Tue, 03 Nov 2009 12:21:22 +0000 http://etherealmind.com/?p=2018#comment-1477 While reading this post I couldn't help but think of my own career having worked for all three (enterprise, reseller and vendor). I could not disagree with your analogy more. Working for a vendor is like being a pimp, you sell something but never actually do the work. While you make money the effort is pretty low. You also don't know the details of the work nor could you actually do it yourself. Working for a reseller is like being an IT handy man. You are asked to do things that people either don't know how to do or don't want too. Extremely enjoyable work but not without its frustrations. It is also extremely transient and only works long term for a certain type of personality. Working for an enterprise is difficult to compare. It really depends on the company. I have worked for companies that had me doing everything from voice to wireless to security to LAN/WAN. We constantly evaluated new technologies and did the implementations ourselves. But then again I have friends that work for companies were they are stuck in one role (LAN or WAN but not both) and they hire partners to do all the new stuff. Doctor/Patient? Not really there are way to many variables to make a clean analogy like this. While reading this post I couldn’t help but think of my own career having worked for all three (enterprise, reseller and vendor). I could not disagree with your analogy more.

Working for a vendor is like being a pimp, you sell something but never actually do the work. While you make money the effort is pretty low. You also don’t know the details of the work nor could you actually do it yourself.

Working for a reseller is like being an IT handy man. You are asked to do things that people either don’t know how to do or don’t want too. Extremely enjoyable work but not without its frustrations. It is also extremely transient and only works long term for a certain type of personality.

Working for an enterprise is difficult to compare. It really depends on the company. I have worked for companies that had me doing everything from voice to wireless to security to LAN/WAN. We constantly evaluated new technologies and did the implementations ourselves. But then again I have friends that work for companies were they are stuck in one role (LAN or WAN but not both) and they hire partners to do all the new stuff.

Doctor/Patient? Not really there are way to many variables to make a clean analogy like this.

]]> By: Andraz Piletic http://etherealmind.com/blessay-working-for-a-reseller-or-end-user-is-different-like-doctoring-and-parenting/#comment-1476 Andraz Piletic Tue, 03 Nov 2009 08:58:30 +0000 http://etherealmind.com/?p=2018#comment-1476 Great post. Looks like working for a "reseller" which also maintains most of it's designed networks should be almost a win win situation. Specially for a career start. Great post.
Looks like working for a “reseller” which also maintains most of it’s designed networks should be almost a win win situation. Specially for a career start.

]]> By: Greg Ferro http://etherealmind.com/blessay-working-for-a-reseller-or-end-user-is-different-like-doctoring-and-parenting/#comment-1475 Greg Ferro Tue, 03 Nov 2009 07:31:38 +0000 http://etherealmind.com/?p=2018#comment-1475 Currently, Enterprise but I have also worked Service Provider, Banking and Government as both reseller and end user. Currently, Enterprise but I have also worked Service Provider, Banking and Government as both reseller and end user.

]]> By: Ivan Pepelnjak http://etherealmind.com/blessay-working-for-a-reseller-or-end-user-is-different-like-doctoring-and-parenting/#comment-1474 Ivan Pepelnjak Tue, 03 Nov 2009 05:44:11 +0000 http://etherealmind.com/?p=2018#comment-1474 Just wondering: when you were parenting your network, was it a Service Provider or Enterprise network? Just wondering: when you were parenting your network, was it a Service Provider or Enterprise network?

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